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Can Trump Win A General Election? A Cold Look At The Numbers

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Center For Vision & ValuesThis is not an argument for what should happen or what I’d like to happen in the November presidential election, but about what would likely happen in a Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton race: Clinton would win, and probably by a wide margin.

I obviously can’t say what will happen with certainty because there are some events that cannot be determined. If Clinton is indicted or there’s a significant terrorist attack, the election dynamics change greatly.

But assuming Clinton is the Democratic candidate and there is no significant terrorist attack before election day, can Trump win in November?

I caution Trump supporters: You can’t just say that Trump will win. That claim must be based on evidence and recognized patterns of political behavior. Crowds at rallies and winning primary elections, especially with only a plurality of the vote, is not evidence that a candidate can win in a general election.

Even if you add up everyone who has attended a Trump rally, that’s only a tiny fraction of total voters in a presidential general election. In both 2008 and 2012, there were about 130 million voters in those presidential elections. And the difference between a turnout in a primary and general election is great. For example, Trump won both the South Carolina and Michigan primaries, but in the general election in those states there will likely be twice as many voters as the number that voted in the primary (counting both Republican and Democratic primary voters).

You could look at head-to-head polls to predict an outcome. Real Clear Politics has nearly 50 polls going back several months which polls a Trump v. Clinton race, and Trump has small leads in only five of those polls over that period. (Rubio and Cruz lead Clinton in far more of those polls.) In the last month, Clinton’s advantage has been just over six percentage points.

But months remain until the election, and there will be barrages of ads trashing candidates. George H. W. Bush trailed Michael Dukakis during 1988, but he then surged ahead late in the campaign. Early polls are not a lock on what will happen after a campaign begins.

So how do people choose whom they are voting for?

For those people who identify with a political party, party identification is the most important factor determining a vote. This view is known by political scientists as the American Voter model, and there’s much evidence to support it. For example, in the 2012 race, 92 percent of Democrats supported Obama and 93 percent of Republicans supported Romney. And in 2008 it was similar with 93 percent of Democrats supporting Obama and 93 percent of Republicans supporting McCain. Obama and Romney in 2012 and Obama and McCain in 2008 came very close to splitting the independents in both of those elections. So what was the difference in both of those elections?  There were more people who identified as a Democrat than as a Republican (according to Gallup).

Right now, according to Gallup, Democrats have only a slight advantage when it comes to party identification, so that’s good news for the eventual Republican nominee.

So if party identification is a very important predictor of voter choice, then the way to victory is to get your party to vote for you, win half or more of the independents, and try to peel away some voters from the other party.

But can Trump get nearly all of those who identify as a Republican? Trump is far from universally liked in his chosen party. I can’t think of any candidate in recent history who generates such strong dislike from some members of his party. The “#NeverTrump” campaign is not the work of Democrats or independents. A poll of likely voters in the Ohio Republican primary indicates that 48 percent of those voters approve of Trump and 44 percent disapprove of him. Trump and his supporters can claim that nearly all of the party will come around to support him in the fall, but that seems implausible. Still, assume that most Republicans would come around to support Trump or at least opposing Clinton. Even getting 80 percent of Republicans would put him in a difficult position to win in the fall.

But Trump claims—and Rush Limbaugh affirms—that he’s drawing independents and Democrats. He’s getting some of those voters, but the polling data suggest that it’s going to be very hard for him get enough  independents and Democrats to win in the fall. A January poll from Gallup indicated that Trump had the worst favorability ratings among any Republican candidates among independents and Democrats. Trump was net -27 among independents (that is, his unfavorability rating was 27 points higher than his favorability rating) and -70 among Democrats. No other Republican was so far underwater with non-Republicans (Trump’s -97 combined was far worse than Huckabee, Cruz, and Bush, who were around -40). It’s not enough to get some independents and Democrats. For Trump to win, he gets a majority of independents and at least 20 percent of Democrats.

Trump, the businessman, should understand you need a plan for winning. When an entrepreneur seeks support for a new venture, he or she has to show how the business idea will attract enough customers. In presidential politics you need a plan for winning a majority of electoral votes because there’s only one winner. Attracting a dedicated minority of voters wins no prize.

The Trump campaign is like one of those outlandish business ideas, like personal travel to the moon, that has some potential customers, but it doesn’t have a winning business plan.

About the Author:

Dr. Michael Coulter is a professor of humanities and political science at Grove City College and a contributor to The Center for Vision & Values.

4 Comments

4 Comments

  1. Bob Haas

    March 17, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    Of course Trump can win against Hillary, even without the GOP behind him. His stance on immigration and muslims will carry him. Rubio was almost a democrat in his stance on immigration and the refugees. Cruz and Trump who think much alike, were getting 80% between them. Not all the Rubio supporters would vote against Trump, a lot of them voted for Rubio because of the GOP support. So 80% plus republicans would vote for Trump. By the same token, there is likely 20% of democrats that don’t agree with Hillary and Bernie on immigration or the refugees. Now the part where I will lose people. There are more democrats than republicans, but not many, Obama won by 7% of the votes. Hillary is such a worthless candidate that it may well be more than 20% who don’t like her and her ideas and let’s face it, Trump is not a politician, they could very likely vote for Trump because he is saying what they want to hear. It’s not like they voting for the GOP, they voting for Trump. For every democrat that votes for Trump, that is worth 2 votes, one for Trump and l that hillary will not be getting. Even if 10 % of democrats voted for Trump, that would be worth 20%. Obama won by 7%, so even if only 5% of the people who voted for Obama are now going to vote for Trump, that would be 10% Hillary won’t get and allow Trump to win. I voted for Obama twice and these last couple years, he’s changed and I like what Trump is saying and I have and will vote for Trump. While I would call myself an independent, there are a lot of people like me that voted for Obama but will not vote for Hillary.

  2. Olivia

    March 17, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    This piece reads like a well-written, meticulously thought out, and biased article from the establishment GOP and their ilk. It’s almost as if it’s meant to put doubt into the Trump supporter’s mind that Mr. Trump is not an electable and viable candidate. When an author feels he must explain his stance in writing the article, in the first sentence no less, it’s most likely quite the opposite of what they’re about to blather. It’s very difficult to believe that this is not what the author wants to happen. Not buying your drivel. That was about one minute and 52 seconds I’ll never get back. I will say that I believe this is in God’s Hands and it is He that is pulling Mr. Trump out of all the imbroglio being thrown at him from the establishment GOP and from the liberal left. No one else in the running could be put through what Mr. Trump has been through politically and come out smelling like a rose. Only a God-fearing man like him could do that. I’ve seen and heard the pastor Rafael E. Cruz embraced at one of his conferences. The pastor who calls for the death of Girls Scout troop leaders, the execution of gays, and wants to impose the death penalty for homosexuality. Anyone who supports and embraces people who believe in such atrocities cannot be a God-fearing Christian man. Of course now, after the fall out of that debacle, Mr. Cruz now regrets his “mistake”. He was just greedy for votes. In my opinion, not someone who I’d want sitting in the Oval office for the next 4 to 8 years. He resembles Mr. Obama far too much. Sealed documents, ineligibility to be President, fake Constitutionalist, foreign-born fathers, far too many similarities for me to ignore.

  3. pirinno

    March 18, 2016 at 10:19 am

    The only way killary will win is if republicans REFUSE TO VOTE because “their guy” isn’t the nominee.
    That is one YUUGE advantage that the democrats have…. they will vote for satan himself as long as he has a “D” behind his name.

  4. Freedom Fighter

    March 19, 2016 at 5:56 am

    Well, we were told ” only Romney can win” and before that ” only McCain can win” and they both tanked! Screw polls, vote your conscience and pray for the best.

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